UFC 106: Ortiz vs. Griffin 2 (11/21/09 - PPV)

**SOBAY310** · 10-13-2009, 05:29 PM

Main Card

Heavyweight Championship bout: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Shane Carwin
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Light Heavyweight bout: Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Luiz Arthur Cane
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Ricardo Almeida
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett

Preliminary Card

Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Welterweight bout: Ben Saunders vs. Marcus Davis
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Jake Rosholt
Lightweight bout: George Sotiropoulos vs. Jason Dent

**House72** · 10-13-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by SOBAY310

Main Card

Heavyweight Championship bout: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Shane Carwin
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Light Heavyweight bout: Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Luiz Arthur Cane
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Ricardo Almeida
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett

Preliminary Card

Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Welterweight bout: Ben Saunders vs. Marcus Davis
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Jake Rosholt
Lightweight bout: George Sotiropoulos vs. Jason Dent

That's a good card.. Lot's of big names on there.. I hope the fights are as good as what appears on Paper.. I like Fitch and the Heat. Got the spider on the card as well.. Yea, let's not forget about the Irish hand grenade.. lol
Oh, Lesnar and Carwin too...

**War Eagle** · 10-13-2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by House72

That's a good card.. Lot's of big names on there.. I hope the fights are as good as what appears on Paper.. I like Fitch and the Heat. Got the spider on the card as well.. Yea, let's not forget about the Irish hand grenade.. lol
Oh, Lesnar and Carwin too...

What? No mention of Tito's return...come on! I'm actually glad to see him back, let's see if it was really the back injury that held him up. He did look better than anyone else against Machida.

Carwin and Brock are two huge MFers!

**SOBAY310** · 10-13-2009, 06:25 PM

I'm stoked to see Tito back. He and Chuck Liddell are my all time faves. Dana could have handed him an easier fight though! Coleman was a good tune up IMO before he pulled out.

**House72** · 10-13-2009, 06:33 PM

Tito is a washed up Can.. WHo has he beat in his last 5 fights besides K. Shamrock.. I mean he hasn't fought anyone really good. He did fight Forrest, that could have went either way..

**War Eagle** · 10-13-2009, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by House72

Tito is a washed up Can.. WHo has he beat in his last 5 fights besides K. Shamrock.. I mean he hasn't fought anyone really good. He did fight Forrest, that could have went either way..

What, look it up man, everyone of his last fights, except Shamrock, have been against current or former champs. Chuck, Rashad, Forrest, Machida. He's fought the guys that were or are at the top of 205.

**House72** · 10-13-2009, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by War Eagle

What, look it up man, everyone of his last fights, except Shamrock, have been against current or former champs. Chuck, Rashad, Forrest, Machida. He's fought the guys that were or are at the top of 205.

Chuck, washed up, needs to retire.. Rashad, worked him. Forrest is going down hill, and Fast.. Machida, was just becoming a rising Star..

Who do you see Tito beating?? Maybe Forrest.. Rashad, No, Machida,No. Shogun, doubt it..

Tito, is just another name to put ass in the seats, and sell PPV's.. That's it..
I liked Tito, but he talks to much, and doesn't put up..

You are Right, Were(Past Tense), and are Now(Current).. I mean he didn't fight anyone in their prime, maybe Forrest.. Lets see how he does now, against the studs of 205..

**War Eagle** · 10-13-2009, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by House72

Chuck, washed up, needs to retire.. Rashad, worked him. Forrest is going down hill, and Fast.. Machida, was just becoming a rising Star..

Who do you see Tito beating?? Maybe Forrest.. Rashad, No, Machida,No. Shogun, doubt it..

Tito, is just another name to put ass in the seats, and sell PPV's.. That's it..
I liked Tito, but he talks to much, and doesn't put up..

You are Right, Were(Past Tense), and are Now(Current).. I mean he didn't fight anyone in their prime, maybe Forrest.. [B]Lets see how he does now, against the studs of 205..

That's all I want to see, he says he was injured, I say let's see! He lost to Chuck, the first time, when he (Chuck) was in his prime. It was only a couple fights before each Rashad and Machida one the belt that they fought Tito!

**House72** · 10-13-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by War Eagle

That's all I want to see, he says he was injured, I say let's see! He lost to Chuck, the first time, when he (Chuck) was in his prime. It was only a couple fights before each Rashad and Machida one the belt that they fought Tito!

I understand, but think the Back injury is BS.. Only time will tell right??? I think what hurt him the most was fighting Ken. I think he got to comfortable, and gave up traning like he used to/should. That's just my theory though..

I just get angry when they(Fighters) talk so much crap about other fighters and the UFC itself, but comeback, or make up some excuse why they lost..

I honstly don't think Tito can win the belt.. Do you see him beating anyone?? honstly?? If so, who, and how??

It's nice to have some people to discuss MMA with it..

**War Eagle** · 10-13-2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by House72

I understand, but think the Back injury is BS.. Only time will tell right??? I think what hurt him the most was fighting Ken. I think he got to comfortable, and gave up traning like he used to/should. That's just my theory though..

I just get angry when they(Fighters) talk so much crap about other fighters and the UFC itself, but comeback, or make up some excuse why they lost..

I honstly don't think Tito can win the belt.. Do you see him beating anyone?? honstly?? If so, who, and how??

It's nice to have some people to discuss MMA with it..

Forrest, maybe Rashad if he trains hard. I don't think he can win a title again, but I see him puttin on some decent fights.

**House72** · 10-13-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by War Eagle

Forrest, maybe Rashad if he trains hard. I don't think he can win a title again, but I see him puttin on some decent fights.

Say he loses to Forrest, what should his next move be, or who should he fight next???

**War Eagle** · 10-13-2009, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by House72

Say he loses to Forrest, what should his next move be, or who should he fight next???

He may have to be a stepping stone for some of the young up and comers.
Or fight some of the more recent big names that have lost, Franklin, Jardine. If he beats Forrest, who does he fight, maybe the winner of Rashad vs Thiago Silva..or..the winner of Randy vs Vera. There's always the Coleman fight if he gets healthy or a 3rd fight with Chuck. I bet that's one fight Chuck could get jacked up about!

**War Eagle** · 10-13-2009, 08:09 PM

By the way, House you said Machida was just a rising star when he fought Tito. Did you know he had already gotten wins over BJ Penn, Rich Franklin and Stephan Bonnar before he ever fought in the UFC?

**House72** · 10-13-2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by War Eagle

By the way, House you said Machida was just a rising star when he fought Tito. Did you know he had already gotten wins over BJ Penn, Rich Franklin and Stephan Bonnar before he ever fought in the UFC?

Yea, I was trying to keep it in the UFC. Yea, even though he beat them in other orgs, he still was an up and comer in the UFC...

**War Eagle** · 10-13-2009, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by House72

Yea, I was trying to keep it in the UFC. Yea, even though he beat them in other orgs, he still was an up and comer in the UFC...

Understood.

**War Eagle** · 10-26-2009, 04:22 PM

Brock pulls out due to illness!!

UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar has withdrawn from his UFC 106 main event title defense against unbeaten Shane Carwin due to an illness that has forced him out of training camp for nearly a month. The UFC hopes to re-schedule the bout for early 2010.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=23331

**SOBAY310** · 10-26-2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by War Eagle

Brock pulls out due to illness!!

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=23331

You gotta be shittin me!!! DAmmitt!!! I was so stoked to see this fight.

**War Eagle** · 10-26-2009, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by SOBAY310

You gotta be shittin me!!! DAmmitt!!! I was so stoked to see this fight.

Yeah, bummer man. But I am still excited about tito's return.

**SOBAY310** · 10-26-2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by War Eagle

Yeah, bummer man. But I am still excited about tito's return.

It's still a very, very strong card, damn...I wanted to see Brock and it's my damn bday party...hehehe.

Can't wait to hear the chants of "Tito, Tito".

**War Eagle** · 10-26-2009, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by SOBAY310

It's still a very, very strong card, damn...I wanted to see Brock and it's my damn bday party...hehehe.

Can't wait to hear the chants of "Tito, Tito".

Your B-day is in Nov? Mine is the 28th of Nov.