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    Default Re: Blu ray not that big a difference after all?

    Will the movie industry switch to digital anytime soon? Digital cameras are far better than film for PQ, and they can even add grain to a digital film if they still want it.

    They should have switched to digital 10 years ago with dvd

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3reach View Post
    Actually there is a big difference. Capacity. Higher capacity = better picture and sound. It allows them to use higher bitrates and less compressed.
    Right. You go ahead and believe that. Meanwhile, muse over this list.


    List of HD DVDs that have better PQ (based on reviews, consensus posts from screenshot threads, other posts, and my own comparisons). The imports are compared to the US Blu-ray.

    Paramount/Dreamworks:
    Sahara
    Four Brothers
    Aeon Flux
    The Italian Job
    Reds
    Coming to America
    Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
    Dreamgirls
    Sleepy Hollow
    We Were Soldiers

    Universal:
    Apollo 13
    The Thing
    The Mummy Returns
    U-571
    Army of Darkness
    Casino
    Spartacus
    Tremors
    American Graffiti
    Animal House
    The Big Lebowski

    Imports:
    Band of Brothers
    Terminator 2: Judgement Day
    Total Recall
    Crank
    Silent Hill
    Equilibrium
    The Machinist
    1408
    Reservoir Dogs


    Now, let's see your list of Blu-ray that have better PQ than their HD DVD counterparts.

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    ^^^^^ I saw that coming. LOL.
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    Default Re: Blu ray not that big a difference after all?

    Quote Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
    Right. You go ahead and believe that. Meanwhile, muse over this list.


    List of HD DVDs that have better PQ (based on reviews, consensus posts from screenshot threads, other posts, and my own comparisons). The imports are compared to the US Blu-ray.

    Paramount/Dreamworks:
    Sahara
    Four Brothers
    Aeon Flux
    The Italian Job
    Reds
    Coming to America
    Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
    Dreamgirls
    Sleepy Hollow
    We Were Soldiers

    Universal:
    Apollo 13
    The Thing
    The Mummy Returns
    U-571
    Army of Darkness
    Casino
    Spartacus
    Tremors
    American Graffiti
    Animal House
    The Big Lebowski

    Imports:
    Band of Brothers
    Terminator 2: Judgement Day
    Total Recall
    Crank
    Silent Hill
    Equilibrium
    The Machinist
    1408
    Reservoir Dogs


    Now, let's see your list of Blu-ray that have better PQ than their HD DVD counterparts.

    That doesn't mean anything actually. It is because the studios don't take advantage of blu rays capacity and use better codecs and bitrates. Lots of studios were lazy and just took the hd dvd transfer and just dnr'd it a bit for blu ray releases. There is a reason why James Cameron and Michael Bay (among others) wanted blu ray to win.

    Avatar's quality on blu ray is simply NOT possible on HD dvd, thats a fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3reach View Post
    Actually there is a big difference. Capacity. Higher capacity = better picture and sound. It allows them to use higher bitrates and less compressed.
    Might allow them to but they don't always use it. I have a few BDs that are MPEG2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mytime View Post
    Might allow them to but they don't always use it. I have a few BDs that are MPEG2.
    exactly. If studios dont take advantage of blu rays capacity, of course there will be no difference from HD dvd. When they do, there will be visible difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3reach View Post
    exactly. If studios dont take advantage of blu rays capacity, of course there will be no difference from HD dvd. When they do, there will be visible difference.
    Really? Man 1080p is 1080p. I have The Pianist on HD-DVD and IMO it's one of the best transfers I've seen on either format. Other than Planet Earth of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3reach View Post
    exactly. If studios dont take advantage of blu rays capacity, of course there will be no difference from HD dvd. When they do, there will be visible difference.
    Exactly! IF the studios produced a blu-ray to the exact same standards as the same HD-DVD there's no way you could tell the two apart. And do go around saying that all HD-DVDs are superior. Just check out the review of Cat People on HD-DVD. I've seen it, the studios dropped the ball on that title as well, it's as bad as any blu that I've seen.

    You ought to see the Japanese transfer of 13 Ghosts and Equilibrium, they trash the U.S. release. Plain and simple, the studios will get by with what they can get by with. Remember the "riots in the streets" on the Gladiator "Sapphire Edition" release? And boy Paramout had an improved version out pretty damn quick.
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    LOL!
    Now HERE'S and interesting web site on HD-DVD and Blu-ray!
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    Ever since I purchased my Panasonic 65VT30, I have watched DVD and Blu-ray and I have to say that DVD looks good, but Blu-ray looks awesome. I have been re-watching a lot of my movies I have purchased in Blu-ray and I have seen little things in each movie that I have never seen before. Example of what I am talking about is Matrix. In the Blu-ray version when Morpheus is sitting in the room trying to get him to take the Blue or red pill, I never knew Laurence Fishburne had such a pot-marked face. I was like HOLY S**T, what happened to his face? In the movie Spaceballs, Dark Helmet is sitting in the desert while his men are combing the desert. If you look at the flying car he is standing in, you can see a mirror reflecting the sand from the ground making it look like the car is flying. The high resolution along with my 65VT30 has made movie watching very fun. With a lot of the older movies converted into Blu-ray, you can see a lot of the special effects they used to make the movie. It is funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytime View Post
    Really? Man 1080p is 1080p. I have The Pianist on HD-DVD and IMO it's one of the best transfers I've seen on either format. Other than Planet Earth of course.
    Man, that's nothing! Check out Atonement and Stardust on HD DVD. Back then it was also the art of encoding and decoding both audio and video (VC-1, MPEG-4, etc) war going on. Also it's mostly preference when comparing HD DVD vs. Blu-ray. It's like those who preferred tube amps versus solid state, respectively.

    OK back OT... agree with screen size, sitting distance, resolution, and BB bs $4k Monster HDMI Cable... also don't forget professional calibration (if you have 300 bux lying around and which I'm passionately advocating hoping to get some kickbacks my way from those people).

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