Is PS3 a good 3d bluray option?

[hdtvjunkie]

My penis is bigger than your penis.

LONG LIVE HD-DVD!!!!!!

[gadgtfreek]

Well, obviously HDDVD players are still plenty good too because Im guessing their PQ wont get better either

[hdtvjunkie]

Well, obviously HDDVD players are still plenty good too because Im guessing their PQ wont get better either

LOL And they don't get worse either.

[David Mackenzie]

In your logic we should all be using first gen Blu players because they can't do any better.

No, you've misunderstood if you think that.

I wasn't saying that software decoding was better. I was refuting your claim that it was inherently worse.

There is an obvious difference between those two image. Look at the right shoulder and go back and forth. The PS3 seems to be darker, and the Oppo brighter. I cant say anything as to sharpness, but there is definitely a difference in parts of the PS3 image, vs the Oppo. Also look at the neck.

Not really. There is a miniscule difference in overall gamma - far from obvious. That could be caused by something as simple as the sunlight outside changing between photographs, and the camera movement. It's statistically insignificant. Neither picture has better dynamic range than the other. You would never, ever be able to see a difference even side-by-side, much less in real world playback. I'll re-do the photos if it'd make you happier

You can throw all the test patterns you want at me. My eyes tell a different story.

That kind of sums it up - this is one of the most anti-scientific things I've ever read! You're basically saying that you trust your perception more than a measured test?

Static test patterns don't show everything, true - they can't measure things like temporal motion clarity, so they won't catch out BD players which do film grain filtering (which some do - the PS3 doesn't).

My penis is bigger than your penis.

Best post of the thread! :D

Guys, with respect. I approve and reject telecine transfers, do colour correction work, encode Blu-ray Discs for some studios, and do BD authoring work. Please don't misunderstand - this isn't a "check me out, dudes!" thing. What I'm saying is, you're basically implying that I don't know my own work when it's on the screen. The last time a BD player screwed playback up, I contacted the manufacturer and asked if they'd look into it. If the PS3 was doing anything to compromise the image, I wouldn't go near it. You can have an opinion that there's something wrong with the PS3, but that doesn't make it true.

Again, this isn't personal, so please don't be offended - I hope this is just civilised debate between AV fans. But from a scientific perspective, all I see here is purchase validation. There are many reasons why you could call the PS3 a dog as a BD player. It's noisy, physically ugly... but picture quality isn't one of them. There are good reasons to spend cash on an expensive BD player - build quality, quiet disc transport, gamma correction features, analog surround outputs - but you're kidding yourself if you think you're getting better picture quality (via 1080p HDMI) than someone with a PS3.

[Disco Batman]

I don't think anyone was saying the PS3 is a bad BD player. It's just not the best option any longer like it once was.

I'm a huge fan of the PS3. It's just not my go to player any longer.

As far as unscientific comments from me. I spend 40 hours a week being super scientific. I try to just enjoy my hobbies. I love that my friends here do all the hard work for me.

[PenguiNet]

Great discussion everyone. David, fantastic work for science. As for the shoulder gamma thing...check out the button when the Post-It note is right under. I think it's just ambient light reflection or something off the Post-It since you stuck it on two different locations.

I wonder if the same people who think the PS3 PQ is worse also buy monster HDMI cables...to make the digital signals arrive "more better", which they can see with their eyes...haha :P

[gadgtfreek]

Yawn...

If I had a dollar every time a pro reviewer/industry professional got something wrong in a claim on one of these forums, Id be rich. No one is infallible, yet everyone easily assumes the guys without a resume have had a false experience.

If you guys need to keep justifying your owning of a PS3, fine, but don't act like the group of amateur experienced folks out there that can see a difference are delusional, especially with insults about Monster cables.

Anyone that keeps up with comments on products I own or owned, knows I report what I see/hear and am as honest as possible. I have no reason to hate on the PS3, but I do not agree that it's image looks as good as the Oppo 93 or newer Panasonic players (items I have experience with).

This argument is just going to be like chasing one's tail (or Repubs vs Dems), never going to accomplish anything at this point.

[David Mackenzie]

Likewise, I have no reason to hype the PS3. It's one of many players that I have lying around here. (In fact, in the long term, I would probably stand to gain more from keeping quiet about how it, and other cheap players perform, because it would justify me being able to sell reviews of higher-end players to sites).

It's one thing to feel that the quality is inferior, but that doesn't make that feeling true (with 1080p/24 discs over HDMI). No personal insults are intended by this, just scientific discussion.

Although it might seem insulting, I don't think Penguinet's comment about the cables is completely off the wall. The same discussions - emotion over reason - have come up when discussing expensive HDMI cables in the past.

[Cemo]

Hello Brothers

First sorry for my english, its not perfect.

I am planning to have a Sony hw50es projector with an 120 inches projector screen.

I have a slim p3. I care for 2d bluray and 3d bluray image quality. (my concern is pq and i m not interested in dvd source)

Do u suggest me to go on with ps3, or buy Oppo 103? (Do I see less ghosting/crosstalk with oppo and better pq or is same with ps3? )

Thank you very much

Cheers

Cem

[tailwhip]

I can't answer your questions since I don't have access to a PS3. When playing a 3D video you can't use the HD audio encoded on the disc due to some limitation. There's a power consumption difference also if that matters to you. I'm not dissing the unit just bringing up some information.

http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.h...el_Differences

[SpHeRe31459]

I can't answer your questions since I don't have access to a PS3. When playing a 3D video you can't use the HD audio encoded on the disc due to some limitation.

Incorrect, that was fixed in firmware ages ago now.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...-update-v3-70/