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    Default Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7


    As most of you know I am a huge Paradigm fan and am especially fond of the monitor line considering it is one of the best speakers lines around for the money, and IMO offers the most for the money. Check out the link for more info. Very sorry to see there is no Titan monitor as of yet, but hopefully they have plans to to revamp the Titan as well.

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    I've never had a chance to audition Paradigm speakers but I've always been curious to do so. They sure come cheaper than most competitors!

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Yes they do! While they might not be for everyone if you stand back and look at the build quality you wonder how they do it sometimes. If you ever have a chance try give some studio 20's a listen they are legendary in a way. The sound they produce is absolutely stellar. Look up some online reviews of the studio's and you will be impressed with what people say.

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Am I reading right or the Monitor v7 surrounds are now bipolar ?!?

    Hopefully they'll re-design the Studio line as well specially the FUGLY feet of the center channels.

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Yes from my understanding the surrounds are basically totally re designed they are calling them bi directional?? Shoot the whole line is re designed I don't see anything that represents anything from previous version's except for the WaveGuide. I just went to give these a listen and unfortunately my dealer does not have any in stock at the moment and probably won't for a good month or so. I will be giving my impressions of the v.7 as soon as possible, I have a feeling these will have a bit of a smoother sound due to the re vamped tweeter.

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Paradigm has always built di-poles for their rear/surrond speakers. Their reasoning has been that, as surround information is largely ambient, a diffuse rear soundfield is the correct presentation. Di-pole speakers are better at that than bi-poles because the drivers on one side are out of phase with the other side. (Try it yourself. Put some music on in two channel mode. Go to one speaker and reverse the wire connections. All of a sudden, the sound that was left/right is seemingly coming from everywhere and the bass mostly goes away.) That thinking goes back to the beginnings of analogue movie surround when the back speakers had little information and weren't discrete channels. To get a bigger sense of space at back, it made great sense to use di-pole speakers. Having said that, Paradigm surrounds were not exclusively di-pole. They designated them as ADP for Adaptive Di-Pole. The would change their behaviour based on frequency range. Sometimes di-pole, sometimes bi-pole.

    The new speakers are conventional bi-poles. We haven't yet heard from the engineering folks why they've changed but when I do hear something coherent, I'll report.
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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Quote Originally Posted by nobsplease View Post
    Paradigm has always built di-poles for their rear/surrond speakers.
    That's why I was surprised...


    The new speakers are conventional bi-poles. We haven't yet heard from the engineering folks why they've changed but when I do hear something coherent, I'll report.
    Thanks for any info you can provide.



    I really wish Paradigm would do a smaller version of the CC-690 center speaker with 5 1/2" mid bass / bass drivers to match my Studio 10's. I would buy it in a heartbeat

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    [QUOTE=BruZZi;267919][QUOTE=nobsplease;267654]Paradigm has always built di-poles for their rear/surrond speakers.[quote]

    That's why I was surprised...




    Hey BruZZi...I was on google and guess what I found...scroll down this page...anything look familiar...click here

    Maybe a "spock" figure and Pugs..and a certain huge Panny display in Soho..hehe..among other things..

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Quote Originally Posted by speedking View Post

    Hey BruZZi...I was on google and guess what I found...scroll down this page...anything look familiar...click here

    Maybe a "spock" figure and Pugs..and a certain huge Panny display in Soho..hehe..among other things..

    What was your search query ???

    I see Pugs, Spock gif, HDJ logos... damn even Amstel Light (My favorite light beer) among other things I think... kinda drunk right now... not sure if I'm really seeing what I'm seeing...

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Quote Originally Posted by BruZZi View Post
    What was your search query ???

    I see Pugs, Spock gif, HDJ logos... damn even Amstel Light (My favorite light beer) among other things I think... kinda drunk right now... not sure if I'm really seeing what I'm seeing...

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    No you are seeing what I saw...hehe..it was a search for Paradigm Studio 10's...also on there is a picture of my favorite huge Panny...looks like the same store in Soho that you shot the pics in...but it lists another forum as the source..

    when you do the search pick the one with Paradigm images..

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Quote Originally Posted by speedking View Post
    No you are seeing what I saw...hehe..it was a search for Paradigm Studio 10's...also on there is a picture of my favorite huge Panny...looks like the same store in Soho that you shot the pics in...but it lists another forum as the source..

    when you do the search pick the one with Paradigm images..
    I see some familiar photos (my setup). Hehehehehehe... even a Top Gun pic.

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    So I got to listen to the new monitor 7 v.7's today. Damn I was impressed in what they have done to the highs, still lots and lots of detail but sweeter and smoother than any other previous versions. I gotta say I hate the looks of them though. For those of you looking for an entry level audiophile speaker that is not built in china, you should seriously give these a look!!
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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Actually, on the Monitor 7's they took a step backward. Mine are dual 6.5's not 5 1/4's. Now the Monitor 11's look like a nice tower and a true 3-way instead of the 2.5 way.

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Quote Originally Posted by audioholicjeff View Post
    Actually, on the Monitor 7's they took a step backward. Mine are dual 6.5's not 5 1/4's. Now the Monitor 11's look like a nice tower and a true 3-way instead of the 2.5 way.
    Don't understand the taking a step back comment jeff??? In what way did they take a step back?? I was referring to the tweeter and over all sound of the the monitor 7. They have been shrinking the drivers on the monitor line since the beginning of the monitor series. They started out as 8's and have slowly moved down to 5 1/4" drivers we now see. The v.6's were a 5 1/4" driver too if I remember correctly.
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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Quote Originally Posted by caliberconst. View Post
    Don't understand the taking a step back comment jeff??? In what way did they take a step back?? I was referring to the tweeter and over all sound of the the monitor 7. They have been shrinking the drivers on the monitor line since the beginning of the monitor series. They started out as 8's and have slowly moved down to 5 1/4" drivers we now see. The v.6's were a 5 1/4" driver too if I remember correctly.
    Well yeah, improved tweeter is nice but bumping down the woofers is stupid. 5.25's do not perform as well as 6.5's do in mid bass and bass and are not really better enough in the midrange to justify the loss in the low end. 6.5's 7's and 8's are the best compromise in midrange quality and still being able to play down low with some authority. 5's just don't cut it at all unless you have 4 of them per speaker. I wish I had the dual 8 monitor 7's. They kicked butt over the ones I have now.

    Best speakers I ever built were dual 8 mtm's with all vifa drivers and dual 9 mtm's with all Dnynaudio drivers. Both were amazing performers. 5's just don't move enough air to have the same impact. Physics start to come into play.
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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    In a way I agree with you jeff, but I suggest you give them a listen if you haven't because no matter how you slice it the overall sound quality is still better than the previous versions. Yes they do not have as much mid bass but still I prefer the over all sound. I actually have a set of the dual 8". On that I was mistaken because the dual 8's were found in the monitor 9's not the 7's. Any way you are right the do kick ass, man I freaking love those things they absolutely just shred. Not the best sound quality you will hear but as far as slammin mid's and screaming highs these are some of the best you will find. I have them hooked up the garage and everyone who comes over just get's a kick out of them.
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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    I've listened a lot to the 7s and the Atoms. I like the ver.7 Monitor 7s and think they are an improvement over the ver.6 speakers but the Atoms are transformed into something new. The new Atoms are now the perfect budget boxes for folks with small rooms. Get them out from the back wall a bit and they image really well...or if you want to party, move them back to the wall and turn up the volume.

    Yup, they're ugly. Great reason to turn off the lights and listen to something great.
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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Thanks for the input nobs. I too thought the monito7 v.7 sounded better overall than any previous versions. I did not get to hear the atoms, but I was big fan of the v.6's and am sure the new ones are much better. I do miss the looks of v.6 though, I really wish they would have done a bit better in that department. Still even with the uglier look they still are offering more in the sound department than many other companies for the money.
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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7

    Quote Originally Posted by audioholicjeff View Post
    Actually, on the Monitor 7's they took a step backward. Mine are dual 6.5's not 5 1/4's. Now the Monitor 11's look like a nice tower and a true 3-way instead of the 2.5 way.
    Number of drivers/size of drivers isn't everything. The technology in the tweeter was trickled down from their Reference line, and they've upgraded the midrange and bass drivers as well.

    I walked into a local shop and listened to v6 and v7 Monitor 7s and needless to say, I walked out with v7 despite having one less driver.

    v7 sounds closer to the older reference Studio line which are highly regarded. The tweeter makes them sound, as caliberconst. said, smoother and more neutral than v5/6 -- not only in the highs, but the mids as well, while still sounding clear and detailed. Overall, a noticeable upgrade over v6 IMHO. Reviews seem to agree as well, some of them saying that they could easily be mistaken for Studios (which should be in for an upgrade soon as well).

    As for how they look, they're getting mixed reactions. They look more simple than v6 but with the grills off, I think they look more simple and elegant.

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    Default Re: Paradigm bumps up the monitor line to v.7


    I agree it is easy to hear the studio line sound in the monitor line now!
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